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Tornek-Rayville TR-660 Sapphire Non-datevsTudor Black Bay Ceramic

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TR-660 Sapphire Non-date
Tornek-RayvilleTR-660 Sapphire Non-date
Black Bay Ceramic
TudorBlack Bay Ceramic
MSRP $6,125

At a glance

11 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
TR-660 Sapphire Non-date40mm
Black Bay Ceramic41mm
Power Reserve
TR-660 Sapphire Non-date50h
Black Bay Ceramic70h
Water Resistance
TR-660 Sapphire Non-date200m
Black Bay Ceramic200m
MSRP
TR-660 Sapphire Non-date
Black Bay Ceramic$6,125

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Diameter
40mm
41mm
Thickness
14.7mm
14.4mm
Lug-to-Lug
48.5mm
46mm
Lug Width
20mm
22mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Ceramic
Caseback
Solid
Engraved

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner
Lume
Superluminova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
TMI NH38
MT5602-1U
Power Reserve
50h
70h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$6,125

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What people say

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Tornek-Rayville TR-660 Sapphire Non-date

Owners widely praise the Tornek-Rayville TR-660 for its quality, good timekeeping, and suitability as a military diver reissue. The 40mm bead-blasted 316L stainless steel case, sapphire bezel inlay, and Arclite Super LumiNova are noted features, powered by a Japanese TMI NH38 automatic movement and water-resistant to 20 ATMs. Some owners suggest alternatives due to availability issues with the small-batch releases. Overall, owners rate the Tornek-Rayville TR-660 highly for its faithful reissue design and quality build at its price point.

Tudor Black Bay Ceramic

The Tudor Black Bay Ceramic's matte ceramic case and bracelet offer a stealthy, scratch-proof aesthetic that shifts from anthracite to gray in light. Reviewers note its comfortable wearability, with one highlighting improved comfort over steel versions, and praise the METAS-certified MT5602-U movement. However, the sandblasted finishing is described as lacking contrast, and the bracelet's butterfly clasp omits on-the-fly adjustment. The PVD-treated steel bezel ring is also flagged as a potential wear-and-tear vulnerability. On balance, reviewers find the Tudor Black Bay Ceramic appealing for its unique ceramic construction and durable, stealthy finish, despite some functional limitations.

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