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Tornek-Rayville TR-660 Aluminum Non-datevsTudor Black Bay

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TR-660 Aluminum Non-date
Tornek-RayvilleTR-660 Aluminum Non-date
Black Bay
TudorBlack Bay

At a glance

10 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
TR-660 Aluminum Non-date40mm
Black Bay41mm
Power Reserve
TR-660 Aluminum Non-date50h
Black Bay70h
Water Resistance
TR-660 Aluminum Non-date200m
Black Bay200m
MSRP
TR-660 Aluminum Non-date
Black Bay

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Diameter
40mm
41mm
Lug-to-Lug
48.5mm
46mm
Lug Width
20mm
22mm
Finish
Brushed and polished
Polished + Satin
Caseback
Solid
Engraved

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner
Lume
Superluminova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
TMI NH38
MT5602
Power Reserve
50h
70h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP

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What people say

Owners + reviewers, side by side

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Tornek-Rayville TR-660 Aluminum Non-date

Owners praise the Tornek-Rayville TR-660 Aluminum Non-date for its crisp dial and bead-blasted case, with one owner finding it extremely well built and a relief to wear. The watch features a 40mm 316L stainless steel case and a black aluminum bezel inlay. However, the bezel action is considered not brilliant and the included straps are scratchy. Overall, owners find the Tornek-Rayville TR-660 Aluminum Non-date to be a well-executed piece with a pleasing aesthetic, despite minor drawbacks in the bezel feel and strap quality.

Tudor Black Bay

Owners widely praise the Tudor Black Bay for its comfortable wearability, robust build, and vintage-inspired aesthetics, with specific mentions of its satisfying winding feel and sturdy bezel action. Reviewers highlight the 39mm Black Bay 58's comfortable size and thinness, while others note the 41mm Master Chronometer's reliable timekeeping and magnetic resistance. Some owners find the GMT hand difficult to distinguish in low light. A recurring point of contention across multiple sources is the lack of on-the-fly micro-adjustment on the bracelet, though some find aftermarket solutions adequate. One owner reported the watch losing two minutes a day after six years, requiring a service. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Tudor Black Bay highly for its blend of vintage charm, modern robustness, and comfortable wearability.

From video reviewers

The COSC-certified accuracy of the movement is a notable strength. The 14.7mm to 14.8mm thickness is cited as a potential drawback. Reviewers are divided on whether the newer models represent a departure from the Black Bay's heritage design.

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