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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230vsZelos Helmsman 3

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Tourbillon Master SU8230
SugessTourbillon Master SU8230
MSRP $1,399
Helmsman 3
ZelosHelmsman 3
MSRP $529

At a glance

14 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Tourbillon Master SU823041mm
Helmsman 340mm
Power Reserve
Tourbillon Master SU823040h
Helmsman 340h
Water Resistance
Tourbillon Master SU823050m
Helmsman 3200m
MSRP
Tourbillon Master SU8230$1,399
Helmsman 3$529

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Chronograph
Diver
Diameter
41mm
40mm
Thickness
11mm
11.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
40mm
Lug Width
11mm
20mm
Material
Yellow Gold/Rose Gold/Bronze
316L Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
50m
200m
Caseback
Display
Solid

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Domed Sapphire
Dial Color
Black
SS - Frost

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8230
Miyota 9015
Beat Rate
3 vph
28,800 vph
Complications
GMT, Moonphase, Date
None

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,399
$529

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What people say

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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its stunning enamel dial and impressive finishing at its price point. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -12s/day and another +6 to +11s/day. Caveats include a cumbersome winding crown, limited 50m water resistance, a 21mm lug width, and a non-hacking movement, with one owner noting a power reserve around two days and noticeable resistance when winding. On balance, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master highly for its visually striking dial and finishing, which significantly elevates its perceived value.

Zelos Helmsman 3

Owners widely praise the Zelos Helmsman 3 for its exceptional finishing and polishing on the titanium case, with some noting it feels nicer than previous models. The unique Titanium Crystalline Dial and Damascus Titanium dial are frequently highlighted as aesthetically pleasing and head-turning features, especially considering the price point. The brushed beads of rice bracelet is described as fitting well, and the on-the-fly clasp is considered amazing. Lume is also noted as great, with lumed crowns being a positive observation. However, some owners report the watch can feel top-heavy with sharp edges, making it uncertain as a daily driver for some. The meteorite bezel is seen by one owner as not adding significant value, and the stock strap's keepers and stitching were considered to detract from the watch's appearance.

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