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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004vsZelos Helmsman 3

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Tourbillon Master SU8004
SugessTourbillon Master SU8004
MSRP $1,199
Helmsman 3
ZelosHelmsman 3
MSRP $529

At a glance

14 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Tourbillon Master SU800441mm
Helmsman 340mm
Power Reserve
Tourbillon Master SU800440h
Helmsman 340h
Water Resistance
Tourbillon Master SU80045m
Helmsman 3200m
MSRP
Tourbillon Master SU8004$1,199
Helmsman 3$529

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Chronograph
Diver
Diameter
41mm
40mm
Thickness
10mm
11.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
40mm
Lug Width
21mm
20mm
Material
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
316L Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
5m
200m
Caseback
Display
Solid

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Domed Sapphire
Dial Color
Black
SS - Frost

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8230
Miyota 9015
Beat Rate
3 vph
28,800 vph
Complications
GMT, Moonphase, Day-date, Date
None

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,199
$529

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What people say

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Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

The tourbillon complication at this price point is a significant strength. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses.

Zelos Helmsman 3

Owners widely praise the Zelos Helmsman 3 for its exceptional finishing and polishing on the titanium case, with some noting it feels nicer than previous models. The unique Titanium Crystalline Dial and Damascus Titanium dial are frequently highlighted as aesthetically pleasing and head-turning features, especially considering the price point. The brushed beads of rice bracelet is described as fitting well, and the on-the-fly clasp is considered amazing. Lume is also noted as great, with lumed crowns being a positive observation. However, some owners report the watch can feel top-heavy with sharp edges, making it uncertain as a daily driver for some. The meteorite bezel is seen by one owner as not adding significant value, and the stock strap's keepers and stitching were considered to detract from the watch's appearance.

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