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Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer DialvsSugess Tourbillon Master S454

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At a glance

15 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial40.2mm
Tourbillon Master S45441mm
Power Reserve
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial72h
Tourbillon Master S45440h
Water Resistance
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial100m
Tourbillon Master S4545m
MSRP
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial$1,650
Tourbillon Master S454$999

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
40.2mm
41mm
Thickness
12.1mm
8.9mm
Lug-to-Lug
48mm
44.9mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
100m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal Shape
Curved
Flat
AR Coating
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Inner

Movement

5 specs
Caliber
6R5H
ST8000
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
72h
40h
Jewels
24
25

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,650
$999

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What people say

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Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial for its stunning, inky black urushi lacquer dial, noting its deep visual depth and soft sheen with gold accents or Roman numerals. The 40.2mm stainless steel case, rated for 100 meters of water resistance, is considered classy and elegant, with one owner appreciating the interplay of light on the dial's textured hands and glossy second hand. The 72-hour power reserve of the 6R5H or 6R54 movement is a consistent highlight, and the accessible price point is frequently mentioned. Some owners note visible pores on the white logo and Roman numerals, and visible scratches from polishing in bright light, while one reviewer flags the GMT function's dial setting as slightly wonky. Accuracy is rated at +25 to -15 seconds per day by multiple sources.

Sugess Tourbillon Master S454

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master S454 for its attractive dial finishing, sharp case edges, and the visual appeal of its genuine tourbillon, especially considering its price point. Specific strengths highlighted include a delicate 38mm size with 11.5mm thickness and a crisp winding feel. However, multiple owners note accuracy issues, with figures ranging from +6 to +11 seconds per day and one report of -12 seconds per day. Concerns are also raised about the movement's finishing upon close inspection, the lack of internal anti-reflective coating causing reflections, a small crown that makes winding cumbersome, and potential long-term durability and serviceability challenges. The 24-hour complication is not independently adjustable, and water resistance is limited to 50m. Overall, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master S454 highly for its impressive tourbillon and finishing at the price, despite some noted accuracy and finishing caveats.

From video reviewers

The value proposition of a functional tourbillon movement under $600 is a significant strength. Reviewers noted issues with the bracelet and wearability.

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