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Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer DialvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

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At a glance

16 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial40.2mm
Tourbillon Master SU823041mm
Power Reserve
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial72h
Tourbillon Master SU823040h
Water Resistance
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial100m
Tourbillon Master SU823050m
MSRP
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial$1,650
Tourbillon Master SU8230$1,399

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
40.2mm
41mm
Thickness
12.1mm
11mm
Lug-to-Lug
48mm
46mm
Lug Width
20mm
11mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Yellow Gold/Rose Gold/Bronze
Water Resistance
100m
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal Shape
Curved
Flat
AR Coating
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Inner

Movement

5 specs
Caliber
6R5H
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
72h
40h
Jewels
24
25
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,650
$1,399

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What people say

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Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial for its stunning, inky black urushi lacquer dial, noting its deep visual depth and soft sheen with gold accents or Roman numerals. The 40.2mm stainless steel case, rated for 100 meters of water resistance, is considered classy and elegant, with one owner appreciating the interplay of light on the dial's textured hands and glossy second hand. The 72-hour power reserve of the 6R5H or 6R54 movement is a consistent highlight, and the accessible price point is frequently mentioned. Some owners note visible pores on the white logo and Roman numerals, and visible scratches from polishing in bright light, while one reviewer flags the GMT function's dial setting as slightly wonky. Accuracy is rated at +25 to -15 seconds per day by multiple sources.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its stunning enamel dial and impressive finishing at its price point. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -12s/day and another +6 to +11s/day. Caveats include a cumbersome winding crown, limited 50m water resistance, a 21mm lug width, and a non-hacking movement, with one owner noting a power reserve around two days and noticeable resistance when winding. On balance, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master highly for its visually striking dial and finishing, which significantly elevates its perceived value.

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