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Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain DialvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

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At a glance

16 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial40.6mm
Tourbillon Master SU800441mm
Power Reserve
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial72h
Tourbillon Master SU800440h
Water Resistance
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial100m
Tourbillon Master SU80045m
MSRP
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial$1,900
Tourbillon Master SU8004$1,199

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
40.6mm
41mm
Thickness
12.5mm
10mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.1mm
46mm
Lug Width
20mm
21mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
100m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal Shape
Curved
Flat
AR Coating
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Inner

Movement

5 specs
Caliber
6R5H
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
72h
40h
Jewels
24
25
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Day-date, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$1,900
$1,199

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What people say

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Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial for its unique, smooth, and lustrous porcelain dial, a testament to meticulous Japanese craftsmanship, with some noting its depth and subtle color variations. The red "XII" and recessed sub-dials on certain variants are highlighted as distinctive design elements. However, multiple sources flag the case thickness, ranging from 12.4mm to 14.1mm, as substantial for a dress watch, and one reviewer criticizes painted hands instead of heat-blued ones. Accuracy figures are not consistently reported across sources, with one owner noting figures around +1/+2 seconds per day while another mentions approximately -6 seconds per day. On balance, owners and reviewers rate the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Arita Porcelain Dial highly for its exceptional dial artistry and craftsmanship at its price point.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

The tourbillon complication at this price point is a significant strength. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses.

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