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Grand Seiko SLGA019vsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

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SLGA019
Grand SeikoSLGA019
MSRP $11,000
Tourbillon Master SU8230
SugessTourbillon Master SU8230
MSRP $1,399

At a glance

15 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
SLGA01940mm
Tourbillon Master SU823041mm
Power Reserve
SLGA019120h
Tourbillon Master SU823040h
Water Resistance
SLGA019100m
Tourbillon Master SU823050m
MSRP
SLGA019$11,000
Tourbillon Master SU8230$1,399

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
40mm
41mm
Thickness
11.8mm
11mm
Lug-to-Lug
47.9mm
46mm
Lug Width
22mm
11mm
Material
Titanium
Yellow Gold/Rose Gold/Bronze
Water Resistance
100m
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner

Movement

5 specs
Caliber
9RA2
Seagull ST8230
Type
Spring Drive
Automatic
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
120h
40h
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$11,000
$1,399

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What people say

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Grand Seiko SLGA019

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Grand Seiko SLGA019 for its stunning "Minamo" dial, inspired by Lake Suwa, with its intricate texture and finishing. The Evolution 9 case, constructed from lightweight Grade 5 titanium, is lauded for its refinement and comfortable wearability. The 9RA2 Spring Drive movement is noted for exceptional accuracy, with one owner documenting a loss of only 0.5 seconds in a week. However, some criticism is directed at the bracelet's lack of micro-adjustment and its pin-and-collar system, and the movement's finishing is described as somewhat plain. The retail price is also flagged as high. Overall, the consensus is that the Grand Seiko SLGA019 is a highly refined and accurate watch, with its dial and comfortable titanium case being the primary reasons for its strong reception.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its stunning enamel dial and impressive finishing at its price point. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -12s/day and another +6 to +11s/day. Caveats include a cumbersome winding crown, limited 50m water resistance, a 21mm lug width, and a non-hacking movement, with one owner noting a power reserve around two days and noticeable resistance when winding. On balance, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master highly for its visually striking dial and finishing, which significantly elevates its perceived value.

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