Grand Seiko SBGR261vsHorage Supersede Dual Time

Grand Seiko SBGR261 owners praise its perfect 39.5mm dimensions, beautiful cream lacquered dial with a silver date disc, and blued second hand, noting the excellent finishing for its price point and its suitability for formal events. Some find the design too safe and the cream dial with leather strap less appealing, while others flag its over 13mm thickness as too tall for a dress watch. The movement finishing is described as rudimentary, though the 9S65 automatic is considered well-made and a terrific value. Overall, owners rate the Grand Seiko SBGR261 highly for its classic design and excellent finishing at its price.

The Horage Supersede Dual Time is widely praised for its technically impressive, 98% in-house micro-rotor GMT movement, thin 10mm case, and 39.5mm size, along with excellent finishing and a comfortable bracelet. Owners also note its robust 200m water resistance and 904L steel construction. Some reviewers find the GMT sub-dial illegible, and one owner reported a bezel alignment issue requiring repair, while another flagged the date setting as potentially confusing. The $8,000 price point is considered high by some, though others view it as exceptional value for the movement and build quality. On balance, owners and reviewers rate the Horage Supersede Dual Time highly for its innovative micro-rotor GMT movement and high level of finishing at its price point.