Seestern S450 Ocean StarvsGrand Seiko SLGH017

Owners widely praise the Seestern S450 Ocean Star's Yachtmaster-style case and flawless bracelet finishing, with one owner noting the ST2130 movement keeps good time. The bezel action is described as having individual notches but feeling like a friction bezel, while another owner flags the bezel and crown action as smooth with perfect alignment. Lume is a point of contention, with one source describing it as a nice cool blue with ice-white application, while others note it as weak or not matching Prospex standards, despite using BGW-9. The watch is considered a "big boy" ideal for larger wrists (19cm+), potentially too large for 17cm wrists due to its size and non-tapering bracelet. Overall, owners rate the Seestern S450 Ocean Star highly for its build quality and finishing at the price point, despite some reservations about its size and lume intensity.

Grand Seiko SLGH017 owners and reviewers widely praise its impeccable finishing on the applied markers and handset, and its lightweight titanium case and bracelet. The high-beat 9SA5 movement is noted for its approximately 80-hour power reserve, with accuracy figures reported by owners ranging from +4 sec/day to +5 to -3 seconds per day, though some owners express concerns about accuracy deviating significantly from specifications. Some find the "Night Birch" dial stunning and appreciate the Evo 9 case design, while others note the dial texture appears less pronounced on its matte black surface and criticize the handset's proportions and lack of lume. The Grand Seiko SLGH017 is priced at €10,500. On balance, owners and reviewers rate the Grand Seiko SLGH017 highly for its lightweight titanium construction and impeccable finishing.