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Phoibos Eagle Ray No DatevsTudor Black Bay

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Eagle Ray No Date
PhoibosEagle Ray No Date
MSRP $480
Black Bay
TudorBlack Bay

At a glance

11 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Eagle Ray No Date40mm
Black Bay41mm
Power Reserve
Eagle Ray No Date40h
Black Bay70h
Water Resistance
Eagle Ray No Date200m
Black Bay200m
MSRP
Eagle Ray No Date$480
Black Bay

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Diameter
40mm
41mm
Thickness
12mm
14.7mm
Lug Width
20mm
22mm
Finish
Brushed and polished
Polished + Satin
Caseback
Solid
Engraved

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
AR Coating
Yes
Inner
Dial Color
Green
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
MT5602
Power Reserve
40h
70h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$480

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What people say

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Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date

Owners widely praise the Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date for its value at the price point. One owner notes the watch is a great purchase with no regrets, and is unbothered by its lume. The Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date features a 41mm steel case and a Miyota 9015 automatic movement with a 42-hour power reserve. However, one owner received a non-working watch and reported difficulty obtaining a refund, citing horrible customer service. On balance, owners rate the Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date well for its value, though customer service experiences can vary.

From video reviewers

The Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date features a high-beat Miyota 9015 movement, which is a notable strength. A weakness of the watch is its relatively weak lume brightness. Reviewers disagree on whether the added features of the Ceramic model justify the extra cost, with one reviewer finding it worth the extra cost and another noting it's a trade-off for the No Date model.

Tudor Black Bay

Owners widely praise the Tudor Black Bay for its comfortable wearability, robust build, and vintage-inspired aesthetics, with specific mentions of its satisfying winding feel and sturdy bezel action. Reviewers highlight the 39mm Black Bay 58's comfortable size and thinness, while others note the 41mm Master Chronometer's reliable timekeeping and magnetic resistance. Some owners find the GMT hand difficult to distinguish in low light. A recurring point of contention across multiple sources is the lack of on-the-fly micro-adjustment on the bracelet, though some find aftermarket solutions adequate. One owner reported the watch losing two minutes a day after six years, requiring a service. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Tudor Black Bay highly for its blend of vintage charm, modern robustness, and comfortable wearability.

From video reviewers

The COSC-certified accuracy of the movement is a notable strength. The 14.7mm to 14.8mm thickness is cited as a potential drawback. Reviewers are divided on whether the newer models represent a departure from the Black Bay's heritage design.

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