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Phoibos Eagle Ray No DatevsSeiko Presage Classic Series

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Eagle Ray No Date
PhoibosEagle Ray No Date
MSRP $480
Presage Classic Series
SeikoPresage Classic Series
MSRP $950

At a glance

14 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Eagle Ray No Date40mm
Presage Classic Series36mm
Power Reserve
Eagle Ray No Date40h
Presage Classic Series72h
Water Resistance
Eagle Ray No Date200m
Presage Classic Series100m
MSRP
Eagle Ray No Date$480
Presage Classic Series$950

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Category
Diver
Dress
Diameter
40mm
36mm
Thickness
12mm
12.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
41.4mm
Lug Width
20mm
18mm
Water Resistance
200m
100m

Crystal & Dial

4 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
Curved
AR Coating
Yes
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Dial Color
Green
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
6R51
Power Reserve
40h
72h
Jewels
25
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$480
$950

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What people say

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Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date

Owners widely praise the Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date for its value at the price point. One owner notes the watch is a great purchase with no regrets, and is unbothered by its lume. The Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date features a 41mm steel case and a Miyota 9015 automatic movement with a 42-hour power reserve. However, one owner received a non-working watch and reported difficulty obtaining a refund, citing horrible customer service. On balance, owners rate the Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date well for its value, though customer service experiences can vary.

From video reviewers

The Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date features a high-beat Miyota 9015 movement, which is a notable strength. A weakness of the watch is its relatively weak lume brightness. Reviewers disagree on whether the added features of the Ceramic model justify the extra cost, with one reviewer finding it worth the extra cost and another noting it's a trade-off for the No Date model.

Seiko Presage Classic Series

The Seiko Presage Classic Series is widely praised for its sublime dial and hand finishing, with textured dials inspired by silk and elegantly curved hands. Owners and reviewers highlight the value proposition under $1,000, the comfortable wearability due to case proportions and slim appearance, and the robust 100m water resistance on several models. The 72-hour power reserve from the 6R51 or 6R55 automatic movements is a consistent positive note. However, one owner criticizes the pin and collar bracelet system as awful, and the 24-hour subdial is noted as potentially annoying by another. Accuracy figures for the 6R55 movement range from +25/-15 seconds per day to within -15/+25 seconds per day. On balance, owners and reviewers rate the Seiko Presage Classic Series highly for its exquisite dial work and strong value at its price point.

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