Phoibos Eagle Ray No DatevsSeestern S450 Ocean Star

Owners widely praise the Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date for its value at the price point. One owner notes the watch is a great purchase with no regrets, and is unbothered by its lume. The Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date features a 41mm steel case and a Miyota 9015 automatic movement with a 42-hour power reserve. However, one owner received a non-working watch and reported difficulty obtaining a refund, citing horrible customer service. On balance, owners rate the Phoibos Eagle Ray No Date well for its value, though customer service experiences can vary.

Owners widely praise the Seestern S450 Ocean Star's Yachtmaster-style case and flawless bracelet finishing, with one owner noting the ST2130 movement keeps good time. The bezel action is described as having individual notches but feeling like a friction bezel, while another owner flags the bezel and crown action as smooth with perfect alignment. Lume is a point of contention, with one source describing it as a nice cool blue with ice-white application, while others note it as weak or not matching Prospex standards, despite using BGW-9. The watch is considered a "big boy" ideal for larger wrists (19cm+), potentially too large for 17cm wrists due to its size and non-tapering bracelet. Overall, owners rate the Seestern S450 Ocean Star highly for its build quality and finishing at the price point, despite some reservations about its size and lume intensity.