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Phoibos ArgovsGrand Seiko SBGV245

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Argo
PhoibosArgo
MSRP $345
SBGV245
Grand SeikoSBGV245
MSRP $3,000

At a glance

8 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Argo40.5mm
SBGV24540mm
Power Reserve
Argo40h
SBGV24540h
Water Resistance
Argo200m
SBGV245200m
MSRP
Argo$345
SBGV245$3,000

Full specifications

Case

3 specs
Diameter
40.5mm
40mm
Thickness
12.5mm
11.8mm
Lug-to-Lug
48mm
47.1mm

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Dial Color
Yellow
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
SII NH35
9F82
Type
Automatic
Quartz

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$345
$3,000

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What people say

Owners + reviewers, side by side

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Phoibos Argo

Owners widely praise the Phoibos Argo for its appealing design and color combinations, with one owner highlighting the bronze patina development as a unique characteristic. The Miyota 9015 movement is noted for its precision, and the included strap is considered a comfortable fit, particularly for narrower wrists. On balance, owners view the Phoibos Argo as a wearable piece of art and a great watch for personal enjoyment.

Grand Seiko SBGV245

Grand Seiko SBGV245 owners widely praise its exceptional case finishing with mixed polishing and brushing, faceted indices, sharp hands, and matte dial, noting its robust tool-watch specifications including 200m water resistance, anti-magnetism, and Lumibrite. The 9F82 quartz movement is lauded for its precision, accurate to +/- 10 seconds per year, offering a refined, set-it-and-forget-it experience with carefree maintenance. Some owners report the Zaratsu polished surfaces and sharp bezel are prone to dings and scratches, and one notes the second hand does not perfectly align with the markers. This JDM-exclusive Grand Seiko SBGV245 is rarely available and commands a high price even on the resale market. Overall, owners rate the Grand Seiko SBGV245 highly for its exceptional finishing and technical innovation at a competitive price point.

From video reviewers

The 9F Quartz movement is a high-precision quartz movement with a 50-year lifespan. The watch's exceptional finishing is another level, with reviewers praising its high-quality craftsmanship. The watch's lug width of 20mm might be a drawback for those with smaller wrists or limited strap options, and the lume brightness is somewhat lacking.

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