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Geckota Pioneer AutomaticvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

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Pioneer Automatic
GeckotaPioneer Automatic
MSRP $299
Tourbillon Master SU8004
SugessTourbillon Master SU8004
MSRP $1,199

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Pioneer Automatic42mm
Tourbillon Master SU800441mm
Power Reserve
Pioneer Automatic40h
Tourbillon Master SU800440h
Water Resistance
Pioneer Automatic100m
Tourbillon Master SU80045m
MSRP
Pioneer Automatic$299
Tourbillon Master SU8004$1,199

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Field
Chronograph
Diameter
42mm
41mm
Thickness
14mm
10mm
Lug-to-Lug
45mm
46mm
Lug Width
22mm
21mm
Material
316L Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
100m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Crystal
Domed Sapphire
Sapphire

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
NH35
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Day-date, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$299
$1,199

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What people say

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Geckota Pioneer Automatic

Owners widely praise the Geckota Pioneer Automatic for its retro-futuristic design, impressive lume, and unique dial finishing. The red dial variants are particularly favored for their brushed fumee appearance and vintage feel. Accuracy is noted as surprisingly good for an NH35 movement, though one owner reports +/- 20 seconds per day. The watch is considered a bargain by some at $259, while others find the $519 price for the NH35 movement in a 14mm thick case excessive. The 42mm cushion case is noted to wear large due to its lack of a prominent bezel. A minor phantom date position on the crown is reported, and the crystal is very reflective despite an anti-reflective coating. Some find the gold accents look a bit cheap, and one instance of a loose fleck of lume was observed. Overall, owners rate the Geckota Pioneer Automatic highly for its distinctive vintage aesthetic and value, particularly on sale.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

The tourbillon complication at this price point is a significant strength. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses.

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