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Geckota Pioneer AutomaticvsSeiko King Seiko KS1969

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Pioneer Automatic
GeckotaPioneer Automatic
MSRP $299
King Seiko KS1969
SeikoKing Seiko KS1969
MSRP $3,100

At a glance

14 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Pioneer Automatic42mm
King Seiko KS196939.4mm
Power Reserve
Pioneer Automatic40h
King Seiko KS196945h
Water Resistance
Pioneer Automatic100m
King Seiko KS196950m
MSRP
Pioneer Automatic$299
King Seiko KS1969$3,100

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Field
Dress
Diameter
42mm
39.4mm
Thickness
14mm
9.9mm
Lug-to-Lug
45mm
43.6mm
Lug Width
22mm
19mm
Material
316L Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel
Water Resistance
100m
50m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal
Domed Sapphire
Sapphire
Crystal Shape
Flat
Box
AR Coating
Inner
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
NH35
6L35
Power Reserve
40h
45h
Jewels
25
26

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$299
$3,100

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What people say

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Geckota Pioneer Automatic

Owners widely praise the Geckota Pioneer Automatic for its retro-futuristic design, impressive lume, and unique dial finishing. The red dial variants are particularly favored for their brushed fumee appearance and vintage feel. Accuracy is noted as surprisingly good for an NH35 movement, though one owner reports +/- 20 seconds per day. The watch is considered a bargain by some at $259, while others find the $519 price for the NH35 movement in a 14mm thick case excessive. The 42mm cushion case is noted to wear large due to its lack of a prominent bezel. A minor phantom date position on the crown is reported, and the crystal is very reflective despite an anti-reflective coating. Some find the gold accents look a bit cheap, and one instance of a loose fleck of lume was observed. Overall, owners rate the Geckota Pioneer Automatic highly for its distinctive vintage aesthetic and value, particularly on sale.

Seiko King Seiko KS1969

The King Seiko KS1969 is praised for its Grand Seiko-level finishing and a slim 9.9mm case, with one owner noting it is indistinguishable from new and includes original packaging. However, the $3,100-$3,200 price point is widely questioned, with some finding the looks pedestrian and the branding jarring. Accuracy from the 6L35 movement is noted as +15/-10 seconds per day, and some owners feel the new case shape, dial colors, and end links deviate from the classic KS aesthetic. On balance, owners and reviewers are divided on the King Seiko KS1969, with the high price and modern design choices being the primary points of contention.

From video reviewers

The slim case profile under 10mm and compact lug-to-lug dimensions provide a comfortable fit. The dial's modern appeal and the collection's homage to vintage pieces are highlighted. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses or points of disagreement.

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