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Fortis Flieger F-43 BicompaxvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

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Flieger F-43 Bicompax
FortisFlieger F-43 Bicompax
MSRP $4,180
Tourbillon Master SU8001
SugessTourbillon Master SU8001
MSRP $999

At a glance

15 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Flieger F-43 Bicompax43mm
Tourbillon Master SU800141mm
Power Reserve
Flieger F-43 Bicompax58h
Tourbillon Master SU800140h
Water Resistance
Flieger F-43 Bicompax200m
Tourbillon Master SU800150m
MSRP
Flieger F-43 Bicompax$4,180
Tourbillon Master SU8001$999

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Diameter
43mm
41mm
Thickness
14.5mm
10mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Lug Width
22mm
10mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
200m
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Original
Black

Movement

6 specs
Caliber
Sellita SW510 BH a
Seagull ST8000
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Power Reserve
58h
40h
Jewels
27
25
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date, Power reserve indicator

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$4,180
$999

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What people say

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Fortis Flieger F-43 Bicompax

Owners widely praise the Fortis Original for its tool-watch aesthetic, legibility, and robust construction, with many noting excellent lume that lasts all night and precise day/date changes at midnight. The brushed stainless steel case is well-finished, and the 38mm size is considered comfortable and well-weighted despite being smaller than modern watches. Accuracy figures range from +2 seconds/day to +8 seconds/day, and some owners compare Fortis quality favorably to Omega. However, some users find the MSRP too high compared to brands like Sinn and Damasko, and one owner reported internal parts dislodging from a limited edition model. Concerns have also been raised about stripped lug screws on B-42 models and potential parts shortages due to past bankruptcy protection filings. Overall, owners rate the Fortis Original highly for its durable construction and tool-watch functionality at a competitive price point.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its accessible tourbillon complication and value, with one owner noting an initial accuracy of +2 seconds per day. However, community feedback flags a winding stem that feels flimsy and straps that are considered poor, featuring a comically large buckle. Some owners report a degradation in accuracy to around -20 seconds per day after a month, and the steel case edges are described as rounded with the material proving soft and prone to scratching. On balance, owners view the Sugess Tourbillon Master as a remarkable value for its tourbillon feature, despite concerns regarding strap quality and long-term material durability.

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