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Fortis Flieger F-43 BicompaxvsSeiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens

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Flieger F-43 Bicompax
FortisFlieger F-43 Bicompax
MSRP $4,180

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Flieger F-43 Bicompax43mm
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens41.8mm
Power Reserve
Flieger F-43 Bicompax58h
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens41h
Water Resistance
Flieger F-43 Bicompax200m
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens
MSRP
Flieger F-43 Bicompax$4,180
Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens$595

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Category
Chronograph
Dress
Diameter
43mm
41.8mm
Thickness
14.5mm
12.5mm
Lug-to-Lug
48.4mm
Lug Width
22mm
20mm
Water Resistance
200m
Splash Resistant

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
Curved
Dial Color
Original
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Sellita SW510 BH a
4R39
Power Reserve
58h
41h
Jewels
27
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$4,180
$595

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What people say

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Fortis Flieger F-43 Bicompax

Owners widely praise the Fortis Original for its tool-watch aesthetic, legibility, and robust construction, with many noting excellent lume that lasts all night and precise day/date changes at midnight. The brushed stainless steel case is well-finished, and the 38mm size is considered comfortable and well-weighted despite being smaller than modern watches. Accuracy figures range from +2 seconds/day to +8 seconds/day, and some owners compare Fortis quality favorably to Omega. However, some users find the MSRP too high compared to brands like Sinn and Damasko, and one owner reported internal parts dislodging from a limited edition model. Concerns have also been raised about stripped lug screws on B-42 models and potential parts shortages due to past bankruptcy protection filings. Overall, owners rate the Fortis Original highly for its durable construction and tool-watch functionality at a competitive price point.

Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens

Owners widely praise the Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens for its beautiful dial designs, with one owner noting the SSA464 was love at first sight and another calling the SSA421J1 a beautiful first dress watch. The watch is frequently described as a serious bang-for-your-buck limited edition offering good build quality for daily wear, though some owners have noted the appearance of tiny scratches on the bezel and that the bracelet can be initially scratchy. One owner found the watch "truly stunning in person" and "tastefully done," while another found its fit surprisingly natural despite its size. Overall, owners rate the Seiko Presage Inspired by Japanese Gardens highly for its stunning aesthetics and value.

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