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Fortis Flieger F-43 BicompaxvsSeiko Presage Cocktail Time

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Flieger F-43 Bicompax
FortisFlieger F-43 Bicompax
MSRP $4,180
Presage Cocktail Time
SeikoPresage Cocktail Time
MSRP $475

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Flieger F-43 Bicompax43mm
Presage Cocktail Time40.5mm
Power Reserve
Flieger F-43 Bicompax58h
Presage Cocktail Time41h
Water Resistance
Flieger F-43 Bicompax200m
Presage Cocktail Time50m
MSRP
Flieger F-43 Bicompax$4,180
Presage Cocktail Time$475

Full specifications

Case

6 specs
Category
Chronograph
Dress
Diameter
43mm
40.5mm
Thickness
14.5mm
11.8mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Lug Width
22mm
20mm
Water Resistance
200m
50m

Crystal & Dial

3 specs
Crystal
Sapphire
Hardlex
Crystal Shape
Flat
Box
Dial Color
Original
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Sellita SW510 BH a
4R35
Power Reserve
58h
41h
Jewels
27
23

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$4,180
$475

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What people say

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Fortis Flieger F-43 Bicompax

Owners widely praise the Fortis Original for its tool-watch aesthetic, legibility, and robust construction, with many noting excellent lume that lasts all night and precise day/date changes at midnight. The brushed stainless steel case is well-finished, and the 38mm size is considered comfortable and well-weighted despite being smaller than modern watches. Accuracy figures range from +2 seconds/day to +8 seconds/day, and some owners compare Fortis quality favorably to Omega. However, some users find the MSRP too high compared to brands like Sinn and Damasko, and one owner reported internal parts dislodging from a limited edition model. Concerns have also been raised about stripped lug screws on B-42 models and potential parts shortages due to past bankruptcy protection filings. Overall, owners rate the Fortis Original highly for its durable construction and tool-watch functionality at a competitive price point.

Seiko Presage Cocktail Time

Owners widely praise the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time for its visually stunning dials and excellent value, with the 4Rxx movement keeping good time, ranging from -5/+5 seconds per day. The watch is appreciated for its size and design, though some owners note the absence of a sapphire crystal and occasionally question the price, feeling it competes with significantly more expensive timepieces. One reviewer specifically praised the Mockingbird dial, indices, hands, and crown, but found the case design uninspired. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Seiko Presage Cocktail Time highly for its striking dial aesthetics and strong value proposition.

From video reviewers

The dial finishing is exceptional for its price point. Quality control issues are a recurring problem with Seiko.

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