Which is cheaper, the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG or the Grand Seiko SBGE285?

At MSRP the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG is the cheaper of the two at $745, against $8,900 for the Grand Seiko SBGE285 — a $8,155 gap before any retailer discounting.

Which is bigger, the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG or the Grand Seiko SBGE285?

The Grand Seiko SBGE285 wears larger at 41mm versus 38mm for the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG — a 3mm difference across the dial.

Which has a longer power reserve, the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG or the Grand Seiko SBGE285?

The Grand Seiko SBGE285 carries a 72-hour power reserve against 42 hours on the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG.

What movement does the Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG run compared to the Grand Seiko SBGE285?

The Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG runs a automatic caliber (TMI NH36), while the Grand Seiko SBGE285 runs a spring drive (9R66).

Side by side

Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOGvsGrand Seiko SBGE285

The numbers, the dial colors, the calibers — laid out so you can stop flipping between tabs.

Tornek-Rayville CISO M38 MAC V SOG

ciso-m38-mac-v-sog

MSRP $745

Grand Seiko SBGE285

sbge285g

MSRP $8,900

At a glance

11 of 29 specs differ

Diameter

CISO M38 MAC V SOG38mm

SBGE28541mm

Power Reserve

CISO M38 MAC V SOG42h

SBGE28572h

Water Resistance

CISO M38 MAC V SOG100m

SBGE285100m

MSRP

CISO M38 MAC V SOG$745

SBGE285$8,900

Full specifications

Case

6 specs

Crystal & Dial

1 specs

Lume

Superluminova

None

Movement

3 specs

Caliber

TMI NH36

9R66

Type

Automatic

Spring Drive

Power Reserve

42h

72h

Pricing

1 specs

MSRP

$745

$8,900

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