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Atelier Wen Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)vsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

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Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)
Atelier WenMillésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)
MSRP $28,000
Tourbillon Master SU8230
SugessTourbillon Master SU8230
MSRP $1,399

At a glance

12 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)38.5mm
Tourbillon Master SU823041mm
Power Reserve
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)40h
Tourbillon Master SU823040h
Water Resistance
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)50m
Tourbillon Master SU823050m
MSRP
Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)$28,000
Tourbillon Master SU8230$1,399

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
38.5mm
41mm
Thickness
11mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Lug Width
19mm
11mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Yellow Gold/Rose Gold/Bronze
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Xuán
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8230
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$28,000
$1,399

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What people say

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Atelier Wen Millésime 2025 — Perception 漩 (Xuán)

Owners widely praise the Atelier Wen Perception's pietersite dial for its captivating color shifts and its thin 9.4mm profile. However, community feedback flags issues with the finishing, citing chipped or jagged indices, unchamfered case edges, and sunken indices. Some owners also find the movement unremarkable for the price point, and opinions on the bracelet finishing are mixed, with some noting it as mid-tier compared to higher-end brands, though later batches reportedly show improvements. On balance, owners are divided on the Atelier Wen Perception, with strong opinions on both its striking dial and its inconsistent finishing.

From video reviewers

The pietersite dial is a standout aesthetic feature, and the watch is constructed from 904L steel. The slim 9.4mm profile was noted.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8230

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its stunning enamel dial and impressive finishing at its price point. Accuracy figures vary, with one owner reporting -12s/day and another +6 to +11s/day. Caveats include a cumbersome winding crown, limited 50m water resistance, a 21mm lug width, and a non-hacking movement, with one owner noting a power reserve around two days and noticeable resistance when winding. On balance, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master highly for its visually striking dial and finishing, which significantly elevates its perceived value.

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