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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch EditionvsSugess Tourbillon Master S454

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Ancestra Launch Edition
Atelier WenAncestra Launch Edition
MSRP $45,900
Tourbillon Master S454
SugessTourbillon Master S454
MSRP $999

At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Ancestra Launch Edition38.5mm
Tourbillon Master S45441mm
Power Reserve
Ancestra Launch Edition40h
Tourbillon Master S45440h
Water Resistance
Ancestra Launch Edition30m
Tourbillon Master S4545m
MSRP
Ancestra Launch Edition$45,900
Tourbillon Master S454$999

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
38.5mm
41mm
Thickness
8.9mm
Lug-to-Lug
44.9mm
Lug Width
19mm
20mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
30m
5m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Chinese caligraphy
Black

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
ST8000
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$45,900
$999

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What people say

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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition

The Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition is widely praised for its unique hand-hammered grand feu enamel dial, featuring Chinese arts and crafts and micro-etched poetry on its custom French movement. Owners and reviewers highlight the dial's dramatic gradient and the flush-set baguette diamond hour markers, all housed in a compact 38mm steel case. The movement is noted as superior to standard ETA or Sellita options. Some owners feel a seconds hand would be a welcome addition, and the $5,850 price point is considered a significant step up, with one commenter finding the brand overpriced. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition highly for its exceptional dial artistry and unique movement at its price.

Sugess Tourbillon Master S454

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master S454 for its attractive dial finishing, sharp case edges, and the visual appeal of its genuine tourbillon, especially considering its price point. Specific strengths highlighted include a delicate 38mm size with 11.5mm thickness and a crisp winding feel. However, multiple owners note accuracy issues, with figures ranging from +6 to +11 seconds per day and one report of -12 seconds per day. Concerns are also raised about the movement's finishing upon close inspection, the lack of internal anti-reflective coating causing reflections, a small crown that makes winding cumbersome, and potential long-term durability and serviceability challenges. The 24-hour complication is not independently adjustable, and water resistance is limited to 50m. Overall, owners rate the Sugess Tourbillon Master S454 highly for its impressive tourbillon and finishing at the price, despite some noted accuracy and finishing caveats.

From video reviewers

The value proposition of a functional tourbillon movement under $600 is a significant strength. Reviewers noted issues with the bracelet and wearability.

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