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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch EditionvsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

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Ancestra Launch Edition
Atelier WenAncestra Launch Edition
MSRP $45,900
Tourbillon Master SU8001
SugessTourbillon Master SU8001
MSRP $999

At a glance

14 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Ancestra Launch Edition38.5mm
Tourbillon Master SU800141mm
Power Reserve
Ancestra Launch Edition40h
Tourbillon Master SU800140h
Water Resistance
Ancestra Launch Edition30m
Tourbillon Master SU800150m
MSRP
Ancestra Launch Edition$45,900
Tourbillon Master SU8001$999

Full specifications

Case

8 specs
Category
Dress
Chronograph
Diameter
38.5mm
41mm
Thickness
10mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
Lug Width
19mm
10mm
Material
Stainless Steel
Stainless Steel/Rose Gold
Water Resistance
30m
50m
Caseback
Solid
Display

Crystal & Dial

1 specs
Dial Color
Chinese caligraphy
Black

Movement

4 specs
Caliber
Seagull ST8000
Type
Automatic
Manual
Beat Rate
28,800 vph
3 vph
Complications
None
GMT, Moonphase, Date, Power reserve indicator

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$45,900
$999

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What people say

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Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition

The Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition is widely praised for its unique hand-hammered grand feu enamel dial, featuring Chinese arts and crafts and micro-etched poetry on its custom French movement. Owners and reviewers highlight the dial's dramatic gradient and the flush-set baguette diamond hour markers, all housed in a compact 38mm steel case. The movement is noted as superior to standard ETA or Sellita options. Some owners feel a seconds hand would be a welcome addition, and the $5,850 price point is considered a significant step up, with one commenter finding the brand overpriced. Overall, owners and reviewers rate the Atelier Wen Ancestra Launch Edition highly for its exceptional dial artistry and unique movement at its price.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8001

Owners widely praise the Sugess Tourbillon Master for its accessible tourbillon complication and value, with one owner noting an initial accuracy of +2 seconds per day. However, community feedback flags a winding stem that feels flimsy and straps that are considered poor, featuring a comically large buckle. Some owners report a degradation in accuracy to around -20 seconds per day after a month, and the steel case edges are described as rounded with the material proving soft and prone to scratching. On balance, owners view the Sugess Tourbillon Master as a remarkable value for its tourbillon feature, despite concerns regarding strap quality and long-term material durability.

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