Which is cheaper, the Astor + Banks AB Clásico or the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004?

At MSRP the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 is the cheaper of the two at $1,199, against $1,500 for the Astor + Banks AB Clásico — a $301 gap before any retailer discounting.

Which is bigger, the Astor + Banks AB Clásico or the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004?

The Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 wears larger at 41mm versus 40mm for the Astor + Banks AB Clásico — a 1mm difference across the dial.

Which has better water resistance, the Astor + Banks AB Clásico or the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004?

The Astor + Banks AB Clásico is rated to 50m versus 5m for the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004.

What movement does the Astor + Banks AB Clásico run compared to the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004?

The Astor + Banks AB Clásico runs a manual caliber (ETA 6497-1), while the Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004 runs a automatic tourbillon (Seagull ST8230).

Side by side

Astor + Banks AB ClásicovsSugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

The numbers, the dial colors, the calibers — laid out so you can stop flipping between tabs.

Astor + Banks AB Clásico

ab-clasico

MSRP $1,500

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

SU8004

MSRP $1,199

At a glance

14 of 29 specs differ

Diameter

AB Clásico40mm

Tourbillon Master SU800441mm

Power Reserve

AB Clásico40h

Tourbillon Master SU800440h

Water Resistance

AB Clásico50m

Tourbillon Master SU80045m

MSRP

AB Clásico$1,500

Tourbillon Master SU8004$1,199

Full specifications

Case

8 specs

Crystal & Dial

1 specs

Dial Color

Silver

Black

Movement

4 specs

Caliber

ETA 6497-1

Seagull ST8230

Type

Manual

Automatic

Beat Rate

28,800 vph

3 vph

Complications

None

GMT, Moonphase, Day-date, Date

Pricing

1 specs

MSRP

$1,500

$1,199

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What people say

Owners + reviewers, side by side

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Astor + Banks AB Clásico

The Astor + Banks Silver is praised for its nice finishing on the case and dial, with a nice texture on the dial. The watch's lug-to-lug fit is relatively slim, making it comfortable to wear. A weakness of the watch is its lume, which could be a bit brighter.

Sugess Tourbillon Master SU8004

The tourbillon complication at this price point is a significant strength. Reviewers did not reach a consensus on any weaknesses.

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