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Massena LAB Archetype 1.0vsCincinnati Watch Company P-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic

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Archetype 1.0
Massena LABArchetype 1.0
MSRP $4,250
P-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic
Cincinnati Watch CompanyP-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic
MSRP $895

At a glance

17 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Archetype 1.042mm
P-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic38mm
Power Reserve
Archetype 1.058h
P-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic65h
Water Resistance
Archetype 1.0100m
P-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic100m
MSRP
Archetype 1.0$4,250
P-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic$895

Full specifications

Case

7 specs
Category
Chronograph
Pilot
Diameter
42mm
38mm
Thickness
14mm
10.8mm
Lug-to-Lug
46mm
46.5mm
Material
Stainless Steel
316L Stainless Steel
Finish
Brushed and polished
Caseback
Solid
Screw Down w/ Sapphire Display

Crystal & Dial

5 specs
Crystal Shape
Double-Domed
Domed
AR Coating
Yes
Underside
Dial Color
Champagne
Black
Indices
Applied
Lume
None
X1 C3

Movement

4 specs
Caliber
SW510 BH M Elaboré
Sellita SW200-2
Type
Manual
Automatic
Power Reserve
58h
65h
Jewels
23
26

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$4,250
$895

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What people say

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Massena LAB Archetype 1.0

Owners find the Massena LAB Archetype 1.1's dial visually appealing with blue and gold accents, but also too cluttered with multiple dial rings. The Sellita SW510 BH M Elaboré movement is considered solid, though not top-tier. The $5,000 price point for a microbrand using a serial movement is questioned by some owners. On balance, owners are split on the Massena LAB Archetype 1.1, with some appreciating its aesthetic and movement while others find the dial too busy and the price point high for a microbrand.

Cincinnati Watch Company P-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic

Owners widely praise the Cincinnati Watch Company P-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic for its sharp finishing, textured pearlescent dial, and excellent lume. The simple, understated design and comfortable 38mm size are also frequently highlighted. Some owners note the bracelet lacks quick micro-adjustments and the quick-release spring bars can dig into the wrist. One owner found the lume blocks potentially thinner and the font on larger numbers less desirable than a standard typeface, though the seconds hand was considered a success. Overall, owners highly recommend the Cincinnati Watch Company P-40 A-11 Pilot Black Automatic for its great craftsmanship and value.

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