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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsSeiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial

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At a glance

13 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial40.2mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial72h
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial100m
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial$1,650

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Category
Dress
Diameter
42mm
40.2mm
Thickness
12.6mm
12.1mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
48mm
Lug Width
22mm
20mm

Crystal & Dial

4 specs
Crystal Shape
Flat
Curved
AR Coating
Yes
Anti-reflective coating on inner surface
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

3 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
6R5H
Power Reserve
42h
72h
Jewels
25
24

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
$1,650

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What people say

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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial

Owners and reviewers widely praise the Seiko Presage Classic Series “Craftsmanship” Urushi Lacquer Dial for its stunning, inky black urushi lacquer dial, noting its deep visual depth and soft sheen with gold accents or Roman numerals. The 40.2mm stainless steel case, rated for 100 meters of water resistance, is considered classy and elegant, with one owner appreciating the interplay of light on the dial's textured hands and glossy second hand. The 72-hour power reserve of the 6R5H or 6R54 movement is a consistent highlight, and the accessible price point is frequently mentioned. Some owners note visible pores on the white logo and Roman numerals, and visible scratches from polishing in bright light, while one reviewer flags the GMT function's dial setting as slightly wonky. Accuracy is rated at +25 to -15 seconds per day by multiple sources.

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