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Gruppo Gamma Vanguard SteelvsPagani Design PD-1661

The numbers, the dial colors, the calibers — laid out so you can stop flipping between tabs.

Vanguard Steel
Gruppo GammaVanguard Steel
MSRP $790
PD-1661
Pagani DesignPD-1661
MSRP $120
What people say

Owners + reviewers, side by side

Synthesized for each watch independently from owner discussions, enthusiast forums, written reviews, and video reviewers.

Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel

The Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel is praised for its aged steel case and cream sandwich dial. However, some owners dislike the distorted sapphire crystal and the absence of minute markers, with one noting difficulty in replacing the crystal due to hand fitment. The watch features a Miyota 9039 movement with a 42-hour power reserve and an accuracy range of -10 to +30 seconds per day, and is offered with two strap options. On balance, owners value the Gruppo Gamma Vanguard Steel for its distinctive aged aesthetic and dial design, despite some reservations about the crystal.

From video reviewers

Movement accuracy is a notable strength, with one reviewer noting a -1.8 second per day deviation after initial testing. A weakness is the substantial price hike for the re-release model, which raises questions about whether the upgrades justify the cost. Reviewers disagree on the watch's originality, with one calling it "decidedly derivative" and the other not mentioning this aspect.

Pagani Design PD-1661

The Pagani Design PD-1661 is widely praised for its excellent value, featuring a stainless steel case, ceramic bezel, sapphire crystal, and solid end links. Owners consistently note its attractive appearance and impressive specifications for the price, around $89-$90, with one owner confirming it accepts standard Submariner bezel inserts. However, multiple owners report poor lume and sharp edges on the bracelet, which also lacks micro-adjustment options. The bezel action is described as not tight, and accuracy averages around +10 seconds per day. Overall, owners rate the Pagani Design PD-1661 highly for its stunning appearance and specifications at the price point, despite noted drawbacks in lume and bracelet comfort.

At a glance

10 of 29 specs differ
Diameter
Vanguard Steel42mm
PD-166140mm
Power Reserve
Vanguard Steel42h
PD-166141h
Water Resistance
Vanguard Steel100m
PD-1661100m
MSRP
Vanguard Steel$790
PD-1661$120

Full specifications

Case

5 specs
Category
Diver
Diameter
42mm
40mm
Thickness
12.6mm
13mm
Lug-to-Lug
49.5mm
46mm
Lug Width
22mm
20mm

Crystal & Dial

2 specs
Dial Color
Forged Carbon
Black
Lume
Super-LumiNova
None

Movement

2 specs
Caliber
Miyota 9039
Miyota 8215
Power Reserve
42h
41h

Pricing

1 specs
MSRP
$790
$120
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